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		<title>By: Lobo Jr</title>
		<link>http://islandgrl.net/2007/01/04/jquery-vs-prototype-wordpress-gone-astray/comment-page-3/#comment-30409</link>
		<dc:creator>Lobo Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frameworks Javascript and velocity. 

http://blog.creonfx.com/javascript/dojo-vs-jquery-vs-mootools-vs-prototype-performance-comparison</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frameworks Javascript and velocity. </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.creonfx.com/javascript/dojo-vs-jquery-vs-mootools-vs-prototype-performance-comparison" rel="nofollow">http://blog.creonfx.com/javascript/dojo-vs-jquery-vs-mootools-vs-prototype-performance-comparison</a></p>
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		<title>By: noris</title>
		<link>http://islandgrl.net/2007/01/04/jquery-vs-prototype-wordpress-gone-astray/comment-page-2/#comment-29997</link>
		<dc:creator>noris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im favour for jQuery too. I think what makes jQuery relevant to current web2.0 ish is the ability for css designer to code advanced java scripting as part of the design not to mention the use of css selector as the jQuery object makes us, designer, a born JS programmer.

Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im favour for jQuery too. I think what makes jQuery relevant to current web2.0 ish is the ability for css designer to code advanced java scripting as part of the design not to mention the use of css selector as the jQuery object makes us, designer, a born JS programmer.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Schein</title>
		<link>http://islandgrl.net/2007/01/04/jquery-vs-prototype-wordpress-gone-astray/comment-page-2/#comment-21111</link>
		<dc:creator>Schein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 21:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear WP is moving away from Prototype and accepting JQuery as their javascript language of choice, going forward. BTW- that nice feature of breadcrumbing at the top of the post when I came from a Google search...is that your creation? Is that a WP plugin? thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear WP is moving away from Prototype and accepting JQuery as their javascript language of choice, going forward. BTW- that nice feature of breadcrumbing at the top of the post when I came from a Google search&#8230;is that your creation? Is that a WP plugin? thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: _ck_</title>
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		<dc:creator>_ck_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jQuery is actually nearly 60k, not 20k

If you use the packed version, it has to unpack itself everytime a visitor loads a page off your website, even if it&#039;s cached.

Better to use unpacked version and gzip web compression. Much faster and will cache properly without any additional browser execution/memory overhead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jQuery is actually nearly 60k, not 20k</p>
<p>If you use the packed version, it has to unpack itself everytime a visitor loads a page off your website, even if it&#8217;s cached.</p>
<p>Better to use unpacked version and gzip web compression. Much faster and will cache properly without any additional browser execution/memory overhead.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Strawn</title>
		<link>http://islandgrl.net/2007/01/04/jquery-vs-prototype-wordpress-gone-astray/comment-page-2/#comment-5283</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Strawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article... I&#039;m just diving into jQuery myself... using it on one client project, and my current wordpress blog...

Sad thing was that after getting my jQuery functions working, the elements from lightbox and the k2 theme functions for advanced archive and ajax search are blown up... 

going to have to do some investigating on that one... but I was able to integrate a cool jQuery element for the social bookmarking section of posts, and was really happy that it went together so smoothly despite errors with the other stuff caused afterwards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article&#8230; I&#8217;m just diving into jQuery myself&#8230; using it on one client project, and my current wordpress blog&#8230;</p>
<p>Sad thing was that after getting my jQuery functions working, the elements from lightbox and the k2 theme functions for advanced archive and ajax search are blown up&#8230; </p>
<p>going to have to do some investigating on that one&#8230; but I was able to integrate a cool jQuery element for the social bookmarking section of posts, and was really happy that it went together so smoothly despite errors with the other stuff caused afterwards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading what you had to say.  I actually hit your site randomly from google and kept reading all of the posts.  Really interesting writing style.

Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading what you had to say.  I actually hit your site randomly from google and kept reading all of the posts.  Really interesting writing style.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
		<link>http://islandgrl.net/2007/01/04/jquery-vs-prototype-wordpress-gone-astray/comment-page-2/#comment-2588</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 12:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason you have cleaner more logical code from these bloggers is because they DONT know how to properly use Prototype. If you compress your code Prototype is 15kb (thats all thats needed for that shotty code example they posted). If you add Prototype+Scriptaculous (Full) they will be at 32kb. If you take jQuery+Interface (scriptaculous equiv) it is 40kb).

You can do the same things in Prototype just as clean, logical, and short.

The author of this blog didn&#039;t even bother going to Prototypes homepage and looking at the huge amount of Documentation and API available. This is just misinformation at its best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only reason you have cleaner more logical code from these bloggers is because they DONT know how to properly use Prototype. If you compress your code Prototype is 15kb (thats all thats needed for that shotty code example they posted). If you add Prototype+Scriptaculous (Full) they will be at 32kb. If you take jQuery+Interface (scriptaculous equiv) it is 40kb).</p>
<p>You can do the same things in Prototype just as clean, logical, and short.</p>
<p>The author of this blog didn&#8217;t even bother going to Prototypes homepage and looking at the huge amount of Documentation and API available. This is just misinformation at its best.</p>
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		<title>By: Nader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 02:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like JQuery.  A day to learn is not that bad at all. But now Mootools is striking back. They have pretty nice features. I wish they all agree in one model and make it easier for us to integrate and build.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like JQuery.  A day to learn is not that bad at all. But now Mootools is striking back. They have pretty nice features. I wish they all agree in one model and make it easier for us to integrate and build.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Boren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Boren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 22:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prototype is only really used for AJAX right now.  We&#039;ll probably be switching a lot of stuff to jQuery in 2.2. jQuery is already in trunk.  Plugin and theme authors will still be able to request that prototype be loaded via the script loader.  We&#039;re not religious about what libraries plugin authors use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prototype is only really used for AJAX right now.  We&#8217;ll probably be switching a lot of stuff to jQuery in 2.2. jQuery is already in trunk.  Plugin and theme authors will still be able to request that prototype be loaded via the script loader.  We&#8217;re not religious about what libraries plugin authors use.</p>
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		<title>By: framehacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>framehacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with those who think putting Protptype into Wordpress is a mistake. I desparately hope there&#039;s a way to disable this, and that not too many plugins come to depend upon Prototype... otherwise I could see a fork coming in the road for WordPress, based on the 2.0 code base. 

If someone wanted to include Prototype in a theme-- say, a richer version of Sandbox-- that would be a different matter. But putting it into the foundation is mixing presentation and content too intimately.

I&#039;m newer to the world of blogging than I care to admit--after an abortive attempt a couple of years ago, I launched my first serious blogs, including a couple of buisness blogs and a couple of personal ones, in the last 30 days. Wordpress plus Sandbox plus a collection of useful plugins I&#039;ve found provide just about all the functionality I expect to need for the range of stuff I do. (The main remaining thing would be to create a set of scripts for cloning an existing &quot;template blog&quot; to make new blogs quickly.)

Since WP2.0 will be supposedly supported for a long time, I think I&#039;ll just stay with it as my platform. I would really have to find something incredibly useful about WP2.1 to put up with Prototype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with those who think putting Protptype into Wordpress is a mistake. I desparately hope there&#8217;s a way to disable this, and that not too many plugins come to depend upon Prototype&#8230; otherwise I could see a fork coming in the road for WordPress, based on the 2.0 code base. </p>
<p>If someone wanted to include Prototype in a theme&#8211; say, a richer version of Sandbox&#8211; that would be a different matter. But putting it into the foundation is mixing presentation and content too intimately.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m newer to the world of blogging than I care to admit&#8211;after an abortive attempt a couple of years ago, I launched my first serious blogs, including a couple of buisness blogs and a couple of personal ones, in the last 30 days. Wordpress plus Sandbox plus a collection of useful plugins I&#8217;ve found provide just about all the functionality I expect to need for the range of stuff I do. (The main remaining thing would be to create a set of scripts for cloning an existing &#8220;template blog&#8221; to make new blogs quickly.)</p>
<p>Since WP2.0 will be supposedly supported for a long time, I think I&#8217;ll just stay with it as my platform. I would really have to find something incredibly useful about WP2.1 to put up with Prototype.</p>
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